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This is how we heal. or features of the national pharmaceutical market

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It is an interferon inducer. They are mentioned in the first post.

Cycloferon has been proven ineffective for hepatitis.

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Cough during ARVI is a self-limiting condition that can be treated by drinking plenty of fluids and humidifying the air. So, dear parents, is it necessary to give a child medications, putting his health at risk where parental love, patience and plenty of drinking are sufficient?

Bronchitis in children is also quite often viral, and therefore does not require treatment either.

But believe me, many parents with ARVI really do not give their children any medications (except for plenty of drink and paracetamol if necessary), and everything really goes away on its own.

Seeing mothers in the pharmacy buying tons of Arbidols, Ingalypts, Erespals, I am so glad every time that we live without all this.

At the same time, I am not at all against medications: those that have proven effectiveness and according to indications. When a child needed antibiotics (with a bacterial complication of ARVI proven by a blood test), I gave them to the child as expected, without any moaning about “poisoning the child.”

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There is no need to give people fragmentary information.

Without honey. education, it is impossible to adequately evaluate drug data. Nowadays it is fashionable to discredit traditional medicine - go ahead! This is the topic of the day! Moreover, offering alternative honey. services!

Antiviral drugs work! Not all, but they work! According to the standards of medical provision. to help with acute respiratory viral infections, the doctor is obliged to prescribe them, while the choice of drug is up to the doctor. If you're interested, I can tell you which ones work better from personal experience.

In your essays, to put it mildly, you are not objective.

I’m generally silent about neurology!

DO NOT fool people!

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With all my love for Komarovsky, he is a theorist! It’s very easy to talk in front of the camera about how to treat or not treat ARVI, but in life everything happens differently. And children are different and infections! Find yourself a good pediatrician, which is not easy, and if you have any ailment, go to him. It often happens that a/b is needed immediately, and it’s not a virus at all. Must watch. And if you stupidly give water and hydration, you can go to the hospital!

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What do you understand by the term “traditional medicine”?

Can you link to this standard?

Frankly, you look more like a theorist.

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I’m just a practitioner, and I’ve seen a lot of people who have read such and other information and really let themselves down.

I see in practice how drugs work or not.

I can’t give a link to the standards, I didn’t look on the net, it’s probably on the official websites. And also in any health care facility in printed form.

By traditional medicine I understand it - medicine that uses officially approved medications and quality standards.

Yes, there is a lot of controversy there, but we do not have an adequate alternative.

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I’m just a practitioner, and I’ve seen a lot of people who have read such and other information and really let themselves down.

I see in practice how drugs work or not.

I can’t give a link to the standards, I didn’t look on the net, it’s probably on the official websites. And also in any health care facility in printed form.

By traditional medicine I understand it - medicine that uses officially approved medications and quality standards.

Yes, there is a lot of controversy there, but we do not have an adequate alternative.

What antiviral drug do you prefer for ARVI?

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I practically don’t use pure interferons in my work, because... No one will do the full course anyway, but 5 days is an intensive one and that’s all – it’s fraught.

By the way, I’ve never seen an advertisement about ingavirin; medical doctors don’t promote it either, but the effect is very good.

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You can compare - people take different antiviral drugs and you can clearly see how the disease progresses in different groups of patients.

It is unlikely that there will ever be double-blind, placebo-controlled trials for these drugs.

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The brain still analyzes all the information and makes hints.

This is how Russian doctors differ from imported ones, who work more mechanically.

Life is life, unfortunately we don’t get sick according to the books.

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I practically don’t use pure interferons in my work, because... No one will do the full course anyway, but 5 days is an intensive one and that’s all – it’s fraught.

By the way, I’ve never seen an advertisement about ingavirin; medical doctors don’t promote it either, but the effect is very good.

Actually, after the authors wrote down its effectiveness against H5N1 in the instructions for ingavirin, there is no need to read further. Another Russian invention from everything, like other tops. Pichalka.

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You can compare - people take different antiviral drugs and you can clearly see how the disease progresses in different groups of patients.

It is unlikely that there will ever be double-blind, placebo-controlled trials for these drugs.

Can you name a couple of incorrect or purchased studies and how they are incorrect?

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Antiviral lozenges Ergoferon - reviews

Didn't help me.

Advantages: Not found

Disadvantages: Didn't help me.

After watching enough advertising, I of course bought Ergoferon in the hope of quickly getting rid of a cold. I actually started taking it on the 5th day of my cold and after the ACC Long course, I took it for three days, three at a time.

Effective

Advantages: No need to drink water, suitable for both adults and children from 6 months

Disadvantages: The price is a bit expensive for 20 tablets

They helped with the flu and also gave it to the child for prevention. It’s convenient that they dissolve on their own and don’t need to be washed down with water. They even taste a little

Dubious remedy

Disadvantages: price and ambiguous effectiveness

I had a slight cold, so as not to get sick, I immediately decided to take an antiviral, as a result, the cold got worse and it all ended with antibiotics, which really helped, unlike these candies. This is not the first time I have noticed its ineffectiveness and...

Lifesaver wand

Advantages: Price, efficiency

Disadvantages: No cons

Ergoferon always helps with colds. Once I actually got sick with the flu and started taking the course from the first days. I recovered in about 4-5 days, I don’t remember exactly, but I remember one thing for sure - I quickly got back on my feet. WITH.

Perfect

Advantages: Fast-effective medicine

My daughter is 10 years old. She recently came home from school and complained of severe pain in her head, along with snot and cough. I bought Ergoferon and began to give one tablet every half hour, as written in.

Good for immune support

Advantages: Effective in the first month of use

Disadvantages: Not suitable for long-term use, expensive

My child and I have tried many medications because we often get sick. Ergoferon was recommended to us by a doctor at a paid clinic. At first, when we started taking it, it helped a lot. But its disadvantage is that if you take it for a long time.

Works effectively!

Pros: Helped quickly cope with fever

Disadvantages: Caused allergies in the child.

Nothing could bring down the temperature of a 7-month-old child; the temperature remained at 39 for two days; 38. The pediatrician prescribed taking antiviral medications, bought Ergoferon, after the second use we managed to bring down the temperature, on the second day of use the temperature was no longer present.

the best antiviral drug

Cons: Expensive, but worth it

Ergoferon is like a lifesaver in my family. Previously, I was skeptical about a group of such drugs, believing that they had no benefit or effect. But when my baby got sick, the pediatrician prescribed ergoferon. I was pleased with it, that's all.

I didn't regret the money spent!

I started to get sick, then I saw an advertisement on TV about ergoferon. I think I’ll give it a try, I was going to the pharmacy to buy pills anyway, I’m already tired of these soluble powders, and they’re not much use. I didn't regret it.

Helps!

Advantages: Effective for adults and children

It really helps me, I’m probably buying it for the third time, the first time for myself, then I bought it for my husband when he had a cold, and now the child is sick, and now we are treated only with ergoferon, because in fact

Helps for prevention and at the first signs of the disease

Pros: easy to take

Disadvantages: didn't notice

Children got sick. We live in the same apartment with my grandmother. She has a bad heart. We were afraid of complications. She started taking one tablet a day. Everyone got sick except grandma. In another case, I began to take it according to the instructions at the first

Good prevention and treatment

Advantages: copes with viruses, easy to use, affordable price

I was with my child at a birthday party in the children's room, a day later I had snot and fever, and I caught the virus. They called a doctor to look at my throat and prescribe treatment. We were treated with ergoferon, there was dripping on the nose and spray on the throat. This is the first time for us.

Really helps

Pros: Helps quickly

Disadvantages: No disadvantages

I have known Ergoferon for a year. My son constantly turns white with colds. Previously, we had to buy different antiviral drugs. But not everyone helped well. A friend recommended Ergoferon. She always helps her son. And when the son next time.

Dummy

Pros: I don't see it

Average in price and absolutely ineffective drug. A pure pacifier, which was recommended to me at the pharmacy. As a result, money and time were wasted, and the condition only worsened. At the same time I had the usual

Does not help

Disadvantages: does not help against colds

I saw an advertisement on TV and decided to buy it for a cold. The second day I take it, it doesn’t get any easier. The temperature is holding. I'm switching to acetyl. Positive reviews

no effect at all

Disadvantages: disappointment, I wanted not to get sick

I started taking ergoferon after contact with a sick person, and took it according to the regimen for the treatment of viral diseases. There was no effect, in addition, while taking the drug I became very ill. It was believed that this antiviral drug is a placebo. Think.

Is faith the main thing?

Pros: sweet candy

Composition of the active substance of ergoferon: 6 mg of a mixture in which antibodies are diluted 100¹², 100³⁰, 100⁵⁰ times. This suggests that antibodies are not in this universe. No kidding. That is, you are buying a pacifier. On the.

Our salvation.

Advantages: Fast-acting drug, affordable, does its job perfectly.

Disadvantages: None found

Good day, dear friends and guests of the Otzovik site! I have been familiar with the drug Ergoferon for more than 2 years. The doctor first prescribed it to us when our daughter was half a year old. At that time, my baby caught a cold.

Useless drug

I went to the doctor and consulted on ergoferon for prophylaxis. After finishing taking the pills, I fell ill with ARVI, in my opinion the drug did not help me. The drug has been on the Russian market not so long ago, see some of the instructions for the drug below.

Regular interferon with similar actions

Advantages: Anti-allergenic agent included

Disadvantages: The effect is unclear. One will definitely not save you in the fight against the virus.

We got sick, of course we ran to the pharmacy, where we were recommended Ergoferon - as a new generation drug, with the functions of an antiviral, immune-modulating and anti-allergic agent. I bought a pack for my husband and 3-year-old son. I thought, let’s start drinking some.

Source: http://otzovik.com/reviews/protivovirusnie_tabletki_dlya_rassasivaniya_ergoferon/12/

antiviral

these are not antiviral

prevention and treatment of acute respiratory viral infections caused by parainfluenza virus, adenovirus, respiratory syncytial virus, coronavirus;

prevention and treatment of herpes viral infections (labial herpes, ophthalmic herpes, genital herpes, chicken pox, herpes zoster, infectious mononucleosis);

prevention and treatment of acute intestinal infections of viral etiology (caused by calicivirus, adenovirus, coronavirus, rotavirus, enteroviruses);

prevention and treatment of enteroviral and meningococcal meningitis, hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome, tick-borne encephalitis;

complex therapy of bacterial infections (pseudotuberculosis, whooping cough, yersiniosis, pneumonia of various etiologies, including those caused by atypical pathogens (Mycoplasma pneumoniae, Chlamydophila (Chlamydia) pneumoniae, Legionella spp.);

prevention of bacterial complications of viral infections, prevention of superinfections.

Viferon suppositories - normal drugs

Is this how you calm yourself down by feeding a small child interferon? :gy:

“So, Viferon suppositories contain recombinant (genetically engineered, i.e., essentially biosynthetic) interferon, absolutely identical to human interferon alpha 2 b. This is not human leukocyte interferon, which is obtained from blood (from human blood leukocytes). B Epidemiologically, Viferon is quite safe.

Quote from an infectious disease doctor from the Rusmedserver.

Yes, you don’t read the indications, but the pharmacodynamics! The drug is not aimed at destroying the virus, it increases the functional activity of the CD4 receptor, receptors for interferon gamma (IFN-γ) and histamine, respectively; which is accompanied by a pronounced immunotropic effect. This drug boosts the immune system, but why mess with a child’s healthy immune system?

Our immunologist says that Viferon kills your own immunity

she is right. and all other interferon derivatives

I don’t bring the temperature down to.5

really a panacea))

By any chance, the author-developer didn’t receive a Nobel Prize??

What do you give for a cold?

I treat the flu with antiviral drugs (Kagocel) and listen to the doctor’s instructions, and don’t talk about how much money he gets from each prescription.

There are simply doctors who do not know the mechanisms of action of drugs)))

If you listen, we generally have bullshit all around us, from which vile pharmacists make money. They are treated with tea and lemon, and then when the temperature reaches 40 degrees and does not drop, and pneumonia with meningitis creeps up, they run to the doctors and complain about the medicine.

I agree. I also always treat as expected, without the hope that “it will go away on its own” and “tea and lemon are our everything.” Both tea and lemon are used as additions to the drug, but not in place of it. Cytovir helps well, I use it I don’t trust homeopathy.

All this does not save from complications, because... the development of complications is associated with the characteristics of the body’s immune system and the ability of the virus

but antiviral drugs are supposed to stop the replication of the virus and prevent complications;)?

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There are simply not enough words. "terrible dysbiosis, kudesan, elkar. Treatment of hypostatura (!), vetoron, tenoten and galstena as accompanying therapy. medicine with citral, ginseng golden root and eleuthero as adaptive therapy for chronic neutropenia. biseptol, bicillin-5 and ampicillin antibiotics. Diapers are evil, boys need to open their heads (from birth, during bathing), synechiae should be treated urgently. It’s not clear whose recommendations, classifications, diagrams. Every second paragraph is with the phrase “and here in Novosibirsk.” "

My ears are curled up, it’s simply impossible to listen to this. out of 30 “training” doctors, 3-4 are dissatisfied with their studies. the rest write and nod their heads. I get scared about where I work and with whom.

I shared it with the head of the pedagogical department - well, yes, it doesn’t matter this time. ))) she said about studying.

I take pictures of the slides - at the level of sanitary education work. I am writing down special “pearls”. but the last straw was the tests. They were handed out to us to “prepare”. I am attaching scans.

I'm not kidding. It's not the first of April. These are real tests for DOCTORS, with categories, including managers.

And this is what NSMU teaches us. They say they teach the entire east of the country.

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Valery Valerievich Samoilenko

About 5 years ago (flood, but on topic) I gave you lectures for MS, in parallel with the cycle that the Moscow IPK conducted for pediatricians. They started at the same time in almost adjacent halls. My listeners gathered, and the pediatricians postponed classes until later, and the teacher of the pediatrics department - a charming woman, as it turned out when we met - sat down unnoticed in our hall, because it was warm.

We talked about EVM on the territory of the country and about overdiagnosis associated with ignorance of this EVM and failure to read what is written according to its canons.

In particular, they talked about TSH norms in children and how honey/ml is “treated” for 2 months. (and by the way, they confirmed to me that the problem is urgent - yes, they are treating it!)

After the lecture, a pediatrics teacher came up and extremely correctly, but irritably, said that it was not appropriate to talk about inaccuracy here and as an honest person, I should immediately after the break say that the norm is up to 5 and it is necessary to treat, and I am wrong.

We agreed to discuss the problem in the evening at the hotel. and in the evening, over a cup of coffee, we read the Tironet and the norms together. And the next day, adjustments were made to her materials. And Lesnoy’s pediatricians should know the correct standards - they were told!

I kept it in my memory as an example of a truly intelligent ability to admit mistakes, regardless of experience and status.

Valery Valerievich Samoilenko

For myself, I made one conclusion - self-education is above all. saving drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves, as they say. Fortunately, there is RMS, where you can find useful links on any issue and study the desired topic.

It’s only sad because there are very few “like-minded people” around, among the colleagues who are nearby. you have to be a black sheep)).

Valery Valerievich Samoilenko

If something is wrong, colleagues will always kindly correct you. There is nothing to be shy about - join, collect points and bonuses and go!

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I sat and quietly rejoiced. Hurray, here it is a holiday on my street. Finally, solidarity. I had already mentally sketched out my speech, thinking during the break to come up and express my approval and almost admiration.

and then - TA DA DAM. and now about the well-proven drugs that we use. And . CORYSALIA. GOMEOVOX. INFLUCID.

ANAFERON, ERGOFERON. their safety, effectiveness and necessity.

I have a quiet brain explosion. HOW?? Well, how is that?? Is it really possible that a person, an immunologist, who understands mechanisms of action, points of application, pharmacokinetics and dynamics of drugs like no one else, can sincerely believe and preach from the stands about homeopathy. so how? How can you contradict yourself?? they say, don’t interfere with your child with your dubious ferons and antibiotics. - and this is the obsessive propaganda of homeopathy?

what's this? sincere FAITH? or did Boiron pay well?

I don't understand. The saddest thing is that the head of our clinic is a “homeopath” herself. There is only one thing to try to discuss - you don’t understand, you need to learn this. I object, there is no active ingredient?? everything is useless.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad. Colleagues unanimously wrote a list of recommendations. left the lecture for the reception. obscurantism rules.

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If it's not a secret, who was responsible for dimexide?

And what kind of cereal were we talking about?

Where can I go with my illness?

Source: http://forums.rusmedserv.com/showthread.php?t=290607

Fuflomycin - your reaction.

What do you answer to the pediatrician when he prescribes Viferon, Genferon and other nonsense?

This time I was prescribed Ergoferon! And before this there is a phrase with a serious face: “It’s time for you to start antiviral treatment.” I remained silent, because arguing with a doctor is somehow impolite. I really wanted to ask if her protocol for treating ARVI included homeopathic remedies. And does she even have the right to prescribe homeopathy? And in our clinic, all the doctors prescribe Tonsilgon to everyone for all illnesses. Sore throat? Cough? - Tonsilgon - you can’t live without him.

But with AB the situation is better. All three doctors I talked to suggested waiting and trying without AB. And only one, called to the house, gave a prescription just in case, saying don’t drink yet - look at it for a couple of days. This makes me happy.

Do we have mothers who argue with the doctor or openly say that they will not give this to their child? I’m just somehow uncomfortable in this situation - the doctor looked at the child, listened, begins to write prescriptions on the card, and at the same time pronounces them out loud, saying Tonsilgon for so much. And here I am so businesslike - I won’t give it away, because...

I prefer to remain silent simply out of respect for the doctor, because I’m not a doctor, I don’t want to offend anyone. They don’t prescribe this because of a good life, do they?

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lilu0508

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It’s bad everywhere, but good cardiologists or good surgeons are not at all as rare as good pediatricians.

In my opinion, this is due to two reasons:

1) with a particularly wide range of problems that pediatrics solves, including non-medical ones. Even if we take only medical knowledge, in pediatrics, more than anywhere else, a lot of knowledge is required in a variety of areas (although, of course, this IMHO can be disputed). This also includes enormous responsibility, special requirements for the very character of the doctor, and a huge number of complaints from parents (I don’t know where else they complain about a doctor so often, except for pediatrics)

2) with initially low earning potential for pediatricians

both official and “thanks”

the surgeon is great. They came to him when the illness had already occurred, he performed several “magical actions”, and they left him healed. I always envied them for this.

Well, of course, before leaving, you need to thank them.

Everything is wrong with the pediatrician

He was there before the illness (so maybe it was his oversight that the illness occurred??) He was there during the illness and will remain after it. You don’t know when to give him chocolate - you’ve just been discharged - go to him again.

Squirrel

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Anna S

I found a common language with the pediatrician a long time ago; I didn’t argue with her, but consulted her about the need for medications. I found out her opinion about homeopathy - she said that they don’t help much, except perhaps in combination. I said that we wouldn’t buy them then. Then AB prophylactically - I asked if it was possible to wait, she allowed. Now he immediately says that he remembers my attitude in AB, but if it gets worse, he can use this medicine. Over time, she began to trust me and allowed me to bring the children, now healthy, for a certificate. I’m telling you that I treated it with plenty of fluids, etc., I’m not lying - I don’t see the point. She praises how easily I cope with the treatment.

It's more difficult with other doctors. They've seen me a couple of times and don't know how adequate I am. When a list is dictated, I specify a group of drugs that are unfamiliar to me and write down what I consider necessary. If it’s convenient, I’ll comment on why I won’t give probiotics, colloidal silver or some other crap. Some people react calmly, others are indignant. I don’t swear, but I don’t make excuses either. I never mentioned Komarovsky’s name - you never know what the doctor’s attitude towards him is, suddenly he’s jealous

NataLi

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My aunt is a doctor. I tried my best to dissuade my grandmother from pantogam, wrote her out from Rusmedserver that they stopped researching it after serious side effects were identified, and so on. Did not buy. An aunt, an experienced doctor, arrives, her husband and son are also doctors and go together to the pharmacy to buy it. She also scolded me, saying his children drink.

Squirrel

NataLi

Squirrel

The main thing the doctor will say is: fresh air, rest, plenty of fluids.

We may know this ourselves, but thank you anyway. Plus a list and sick leave.

We act in a different direction - we argue not with doctors (a doctor is a forced person, the reporting hangs on him), but with brothers in mind. With other parents, that is.

This is where the results are discouraging. We encounter either indifference or reinforced concrete confidence in our parental “correctness.”

Dragonfly

NataLi

MariaOk

Lesutka

During the next ARVI, our local police officer asked what antiviral medicine we had at home, I said that I didn’t give it to him because they didn’t help us anyway. She smiled. Then she said that before, even without antiviral drugs, children recovered remarkably well. But, he says, I can’t help but appoint them, otherwise they’ll decide that I don’t know about them. We agreed well.

But once again it didn’t work out. This was during a protracted ARVI. The infection was definitely viral, this was later confirmed by the KLA. For 5 days in a row, the child’s temperature rises above 39. It goes down normally, but rises again. And when on Saturday, after a Friday visit to the local police officer, the temperature still rose, I couldn’t stand it and took me to a private clinic near my house. There was some medical candidate there. Sci. He says yes, you have a viral infection, continue to treat. He asks what antiviral we are giving. I honestly admitted that I didn’t give it, because I don’t know how to fit the isoprinosine tablets prescribed to us into a one and a half year old child. She said with a smart look that the body itself cannot cope with the virus, and that is why antiviral medication must be given. Well, she prescribed Viferon suppositories for us.

Mother of two boys

for frequent sore throats (three times a year) Immunal, Lugol

with nasal congestion (without examining the adenoids with a speculum) Iov baby and protegol.

I objected that I don’t give homeopathy, to which I was told: it’s my business to prescribe, and yours whether to give it or not. In the end, she didn’t give anything, the nose began to breathe on its own.

The last time I left the pediatrician without any appointments at all - “you already know everything yourself” - was her verdict. But she really praised the last one, according to her, Grippferon, it really helps.

Spring

Mashenka

Doctor. What antiviral medications do you have at home?

Me: I don’t give these drugs to children.

Doctor (looking at me intently). Fine. What expectorants do you have at home?

I. Drink plenty of fluids.

Doctor (after a short pause). Oh, you just unsolder, okay. Do you put anything in your nose?

I. Saline solution and Nazivin at night.

All this time the nurse holds a piece of paper where we need to write appointments for us.

Nurse. So what should I write?

Doctor (smiling). I don’t know, write water.

Nurse (smiling). Okay, I won't write anything.

But then, when the junior card came into my hands, in the instructions she wrote a complete set of bullshit.

LunaT

LunaT

Tamar4ik

Squirrel

Rebel

Squirrel

True, there are still a couple of posters advertising the mixture hanging in ours. At least that's it.

Rebel

Well, let them either take off the cross or put on panties. And so people believe everything.

Squirrel

Tatiana O.

Squirrel

Tatiana O.

Sealerinka

I suspect I had those too.

Veranika Andreevna

That’s why everyone is prescribed different antiviral drugs; who can tell by their appearance whether the mother is adequate or not. The doctor often thinks that it is better for the child to drink the harmless homeopathic bullshit prescribed by me than for someone “smart” to prescribe him injections. Therefore, listen to all the instructions, and it’s up to you to decide whether to drink or not. And you are primarily responsible for the child. But I don’t think it’s worth arguing, why bother each other?

Veranika Andreevna

Dragonfly

Veranika Andreevna

Rebel

Rebel

And yes, it’s better not to quarrel with doctors at a free clinic. We do optional vaccinations, and 2 out of 3 were given to us for free, then we’ll ask for Vaxigrip instead of Grippol. So I think we need to adapt.

Everything is in the interests of your own child.

Of course, when in our case I refused the procedures, it was necessary to somehow explain why. But to say that I will not take these bullshit, and even the pediatrician, who will have a child until he is 18 years old, needs to think about it.

Rebel

Dragonfly

Rebel

A year later, we also had one procedure, and there was no particular runny nose.

MariaOk

Let’s say the same for the therapist, Kagocel constantly advises, and also gives “scientific” arguments.

And I will argue about antibiotics. The therapist blurted out to my husband during ARVI: “it will get worse, take SOME kind of antibiotic”! Moreover, my husband has serious contraindications to some a/b, the doctor should always be interested in this.

Kartinka

Mom of Leo and Rody

Kashpur

My son was sick once, and to be honest, I called a doctor to listen to his lungs and look at his throat.

Viferon in the ass, no walks and no baths? She agreed and left. OK OK. She’s been handing out such appointments for more than 40 years now; how can I out-argue her?

July-Julia

Lisitza

Amartia

Squirrel

I know very well how to treat ARVI, and I come to the doctor to obey him, to look at his throat (I still haven’t learned to look into Pashka’s mouth).

Sometimes I just want the doctor to know this too - to know that I won’t give interferon, that I don’t believe in homeopathy, that we treat coughs with compote, etc. So I created a post, I thought someone would share their experience. And it turns out I’m not the only one.

Source: http://klubkom.net/posts/67490

Ergoferon: results of clinical studies for ARVI in children

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“PAEDIATRIC PRACTICE” November-December, D.V. Usenko, MD, PhD, Leading Researcher, Clinical Department of Infectious Pathology, Central Research Institute of Epidemiology, Rospotrebnadzor

Acute respiratory viral infections (ARVI) still remain the most widespread group of infectious diseases, for the vast majority of which there are no means of specific prevention. According to Rospotrebnadzor, over the past 3 years, the child population of the Russian Federation accounted for 70-72.5% of all registered cases of ARVI, which in numerical terms amounted to from 20.3 to 21 million. High genetic diversity of circulating respiratory viruses, instability and severe The type-specificity of immunity is the cause of frequent recurrent diseases, which, in turn, leads in some cases to the formation of recurrent and chronic inflammatory processes of the respiratory system. Unfortunately, the pharmacological interventions available to widespread clinical practice for ARVI are mainly represented by vaccines and antiviral drugs against influenza, with an almost complete absence of such against other pathogens of ARVI. In these conditions, one of the priorities is to expand treatment options for ARVI with the development of effective antiviral drugs for the most important pathogens and/or safe and effective modifiers of biological reactions. This is fully met by ARVI therapy using a drug that combines antiviral and pathogenetic effects to obtain results at any stage of the disease, regardless of the etiological agent. In this connection, the use of the domestic combination drug Ergoferon for ARVI seems promising.

Key words: acute respiratory viral infection (ARVI), effective therapy, Ergoferon.

Ergoferon is a modern antiviral drug with anti-inflammatory and antihistamine effects for the complex treatment of ARVI, including influenza, in children of all age groups. Ergoferon is created on the basis of release-active antibodies (RA AT) to interferon-gamma (IFN-gamma), histamine, and the CD4 receptor. The components of Ergoferon have a single mechanism of action - due to the influence on the conformation (spatial arrangement) of target molecules and their ligand-receptor interactions.

Ergoferon regulates the functional activity and binding of endogenous molecules IFN-gamma, CD4 and histamine to their receptors, as well as their production [1].

The enhanced antiviral effect of Ergoferon is achieved through the effect on the interferon (IFN) system in combination with the activation of virus recognition processes by the CD4 cell system. Due to RA antibodies to IFN-gamma, the virus-induced production of IFN-gamma, IFN-alpha/beta and associated interleukins (IL-2, IL-4, IL-10, etc.) increases, and ligand-receptor interactions of IFN improve , cytokine status is restored. Also, this component of Ergoferon promotes the activation of phagocytosis and NK cells (natural killer cells), restoration of the balance of T-helper types 1 and 2 (T 1/T 2) activity of the immune response, increased production of protective antibodies by B lymphocytes - immunoglobulins ( Ig) G and A, including enhancing local secretory immunity (sIgA), and inhibiting the production of allergic antibodies - IgE. And thanks to RA antibodies to the CD4 coreceptor, the functional activity of this receptor, present on antigen-presenting cells (macrophages, dendritic cells) and T 1 and T 2 lymphocytes, is regulated. In turn, this influence leads to an increase in the functional activity of CD4 lymphocytes, normalization of the immunoregulatory index CD4/CD8, as well as the subpopulation composition of immunocompetent cells (CD3, CD4, CD8, CD16, CD20) [1, 2].

The anti-inflammatory and antihistamine effect of Ergoferon is realized mainly due to the effects of RA antibodies to histamine, which affect the pathogenetic link - the allergic component of viral infections - and modify the histamine-dependent activation of peripheral and central H1 receptors. This leads to a decrease in the tone of bronchial smooth muscles, capillary permeability and helps reduce the severity of allergic reactions accompanying the infectious process by suppressing the release of histamine from mast cells and basophils. In addition, the anti-inflammatory activity of Ergoferon is complemented by the influence of RA antibodies to CD4 on the cytokine network and regulation of the balance of pro- and anti-inflammatory cytokine production. Clinically, this is manifested by relieving inflammation in the respiratory tract, reducing the duration and severity of rhinorrhea, nasal congestion by reducing swelling of the nasal mucosa, as well as reducing the severity and duration of coughing and sneezing.

Thus, the combined composition of Ergoferon makes it possible to influence various mechanisms of the infectious-inflammatory process and form an adequate broad-spectrum antiviral response - the drug effectively fights the etiological agents of influenza and other acute respiratory viral infections. Experimental and clinical studies have proven that Ergoferon remains effective regardless of the stages of treatment for ARVI. Thus, in the first 48 hours, in response to the introduction of the virus with the development of a nonspecific immune response, Ergoferon, due to RA antibodies to IFN-gamma and CD4, increases the functional activity of macrophages, NK cells, IFN-alpha, which ensures the effectiveness of action at an early stage. Somewhat later, cytotoxic cellular reactions of CD8+ and CD4+ T-lymphocytes develop, and Ergoferon supports antiviral immunity to a greater extent due to RA antibodies to CD4. At later stages of RA, anti-CD4 antibodies support humoral antiviral immunity through stimulation of CD4 Th2 receptors. The ability to modify histamine-dependent reactions is significant at all stages of ARVI therapy [2–6].

The clinical effectiveness of Ergoferon for acute respiratory viral infections in children has been proven in numerous studies, including a number of designs corresponding to the “gold standard” of evidence-based medicine - randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies. For example, in the journal “Antibiotics and Chemotherapy” in 2014, the results of a multicenter double-blind placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial of the effectiveness and safety of Ergoferon in the treatment of ARVI in children were published with the participation of 162 patients from 3 to 17 years old, 82 of them were in the Ergoferon group [3].

A significant superiority of the effectiveness of Ergoferon therapy over placebo was demonstrated (p=0.001). The effect of treatment with Ergoferon occurs quickly - within the first day of starting therapy. And starting from the evening of the second day, the number of convalescents progressively increased and amounted to 14% on the 2nd day, 29% on the 3rd day and 61% on the 4th day (versus 5, 14 and 44% against the background of placebo therapy). Thus, after three days of using Ergoferon, more than half of the children (61%) experienced elimination of the main symptoms of the disease.

The duration of the febrile period in children taking Ergoferon averaged 1.9±0.8 days, which was significantly less than in the placebo group (2.5±0.8 days; due to a decrease in the severity of fever and general intoxication manifestations during treatment Ergoferon was a reduction in the frequency of taking antipyretic drugs.

Antipyretics on the 1st day of treatment were prescribed to 68% of children in the Ergoferon group; in the placebo group there were 21% more such children (89%). On day 2, the proportion of patients requiring antipyretics was 9% and 12%, respectively. This study also showed that Ergoferon reduces the risk of bacterial complications of influenza and ARVI [3].

Similar results were obtained in other studies of the effectiveness and safety of Ergoferon in ARVI [4–6]. The results of researchers from the National Medical University are interesting. Bogomolets, Kiev, to study the effect of Ergoferon on the cytokine profile of saliva in children aged 4 to 17 years. Positive dynamics of the level of stimulated production of IFN-gamma under the influence of Ergoferon and negative dynamics were revealed in patients who did not receive it. It is worth noting that the action of Ergoferon stimulated the production of IFN-gamma in children with an initial decrease and did not cause an excessive response in children with an initially increased level of production of this cytokine. Similar results were obtained when analyzing the dynamics of IFN-alpha levels.

When assessing the dynamics of the level of secretory IgG, its sharp (almost 2-fold) drop was revealed in patients who did not receive Ergoferon, while in patients who took Ergoferon, its level was stable. The results obtained indicate the selective, regulatory effect of Ergoferon on the production of IFN types 1 and 2 [4]. In addition to the immunomodulatory effect, this study also shows that Ergoferon for ARVI in children reduces the duration of nasal congestion and other catarrhal phenomena, fever, and weakness by 1–2 days.

It is worth noting that Ergoferon is effective and safe for the treatment of acute respiratory viral infections, including influenza, in patients with allergic diseases and is able to reduce the likelihood of exacerbations of allergic diseases against the background of acute respiratory viral infections - prophylactic use of Ergoferon in children with bronchial asthma (BA) for a month allows significantly (rErgoferon has high rates of clinical safety, combined with all symptomatic and antibacterial drugs that are used in the treatment of influenza and other acute respiratory viral infections, has good tolerability and high adherence to therapy in pediatric patients [2–6].

Thus, clinical studies have proven that the effectiveness of Ergoferon therapy reliably exceeds placebo, providing a reduction in the duration of the main intoxication and respiratory symptoms of influenza and other acute respiratory viral infections in children, the duration of fever and intoxication - by 1.8 times, catarrhal syndrome - by 2 times. It also reduces the severity of ARVI in children, especially in the early stages of the disease, and the risk of bacterial complications.

The results of experimental and clinical studies suggest that Ergoferon is a reasonable choice for starting drug therapy for ARVI, including influenza, at any stage of the disease.

The antiviral, anti-inflammatory and antihistamine mechanisms of action of Ergoferon provide effective therapy regardless of the etiology of ARVI and are implemented throughout the duration of ARVI, allowing for complete suppression of replication and removal of viruses from the body and complete treatment at all stages of the disease, that is, regardless of the time of treatment patient.

1. Instructions for use of the drug Ergoferon - http://grls. rosminzdrav.ru/. Access is free, access date: 10/20/2015.

2. Shapovalova Yu.S. Clinical, pharmacological justification and experience of using an innovative release-active drug in the treatment of acute respiratory viral infections // Polyclinic Doctor’s Handbook, 2015, No. 2, p. 4-8.

3. Geppe N.A., Kondurina E.G., Galustyan A.N. etc. The liquid dosage form of ergoferon is an effective and safe treatment for acute respiratory infections in children. Interim results of a multicenter, double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial // Antibiotics and Chemotherapy, 2014; 59 (5-6): 6-14.

4. Kramaryov S.O., Zakordonets L.V. Advice on the use of the drug “Ergoferon” in children with acute respiratory viral infections // Modern Pediatrics, 2014, No. 8 (64), p. 1-4.

5. Nikolaeva I.V. Ergoferon in the treatment of acute respiratory viral infections in children // Children's infections, 2014, No. 3, p. 45-50.

6. Sabitov A.U, Ershova A.V. Optimization of treatment of acute respiratory viral infection in children with bronchial asthma // Practical Medicine, 2015, No. 2 (87), p. 85-90.

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Antiviral drug Ergoferon

Viruses these days have become cunning, they have learned to hide and change. You can, of course, hope for chance. Suddenly the infection slips by. But if you find yourself at risk, any virus threatens you with acute bronchitis, sinusitis, pneumonia and other dangerous complications. What kind of group is this and how to deal with the many faces of viruses, this is what our whole story is about.

Ergoferon 3 in 1

Scientists have been working for many years to create a drug that would combine antiviral, anti-inflammatory and antiallergic effects. And finally, a drug with a wide spectrum of activity and a universal mechanism of action was developed by the domestic research and production company Materia Medica Holding. The new antiviral drug Ergoferon has all the necessary qualities for a successful fight against colds and flu and is able to single-handedly overcome the virus, cope with colds and prevent the occurrence of allergic reactions.

The principle of action of ergoferon

The mechanism of action of Ergoferon is based on the precise targeting of its components to pharmacological targets. Antibodies to histamine interact with histamine receptors, antibodies to interferon-gamma have an antiviral effect. Antibodies to the CD4 cell coreceptor enhance the antiviral effect of Ergoferon. This union provides a complex anti-edematous, anti-inflammatory and antihistamine effect, which distinguishes Ergoferon from other antiviral drugs.

Ergoferon - instructions for use

In order for the effect of treatment to be as productive as possible, Ergoferon must be taken correctly, since an error in the dosage or time of starting the first dose can significantly delay the therapeutic effect of the drug.

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Does ergoferon help?

300 rubles down the drain. So in the news they said that there is more of a placebo effect at work! One sugar tablet.

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Hide on this topic. Well, Komarovsky also wrote well about all this bullshit.

Our daddy just works in the field of clinical research, so for purchasing and using bullshit you can be laughed to death

My son had his adenoids removed, and a couple of weeks later they came to the pediatrician. I wrote it out “so I don’t get sick.”

Our grandmother listens to doctors, and when I say that there is no need to buy this, she objects, “The doctor prescribed it.”

thanks for the articles.

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and what is usually used in your family for the prevention and treatment of acute viral diseases?

Doctor, director of the medical agency MedAssistance.

I don’t give consultations in person!

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Do you think symptomatic treatment is good for your health? Especially for children?

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I don’t give consultations in person!

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I'm trying to clarify your position. From the point of view of a doctor with more than 20 years of experience, I can say that symptomatic treatment for ARVI and prevention of ARVI are very different things from the point of view of the medium term

Doctor, director of the medical agency MedAssistance.

I don’t give consultations in person!

We don’t smoke, we practically don’t drink alcohol (a bottle of wine can last six months in the refrigerator), and we each go in for sports in our own way. I take complex vitamins for nursing (yes, the benefits of vitamins are controversial, but this is something we can take “just in case”), he takes vitamins with a special emphasis on potassium-magnesium (due to sports). We don’t eat Junk food, we don’t visit “folk festivals” and shopping centers. This may be why we have fairly good immunity and get ARVI less often than once a year. We do not give flu vaccinations. We wash our hands when returning from the street))

At home, the windows are open and the radiators are turned off, so I don’t overheat myself and don’t wrap my child up. The child has had a swimming pool 2 times a week since he was 4 months old, and at home he bathes in a non-hot bath (currently 32 degrees, I want to lower it further). I don’t put overalls on him in the summer and don’t follow unreasonable medical prescriptions. In winter, from birth, I slept on the balcony during the day. I haven’t caught ARVI yet.

A recent example of unfounded medical recommendations is Genferon, Tonsilgon and Aquamaris for a teething child, “just in case,” because there is a vague runny nose (the monthly examination by the pediatrician was inopportune). I didn’t do anything, after 3 days there was no hint of a runny nose - the tooth erupted and everything went away.

We don’t go to the doctors at the clinic for ARVI if the picture is typical. Drinking regimen, reducing physical activity, if necessary - a vasoconstrictor in the nose (without fanaticism, there is no desire to get a “medicinal” runny nose), you can rinse your nose, aerosol/tablets for a sore throat, I don’t even remember when I took the antipyretic. That's kind of the whole position.

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you guys are just great. We live in much the same way, only with acute respiratory infections, I have been treating children for 15 years only with homeopathy and these same things. pherons :-) None of them were sick for more than two days. My point is that there is no need to throw out the baby with the bathwater. In many ways, this is hysteria and the struggle of pharmaceutical companies. However, we almost never go to doctors either.

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Our folder knows well about pharmaceutical companies; he worked as a medical consultant for some time.

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and many drugs help us

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